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billy — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:19:59 -0000

Go Doug he's right so everyone else be quiet

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Clatech — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:41:31 -0000

The way the liberal media went after Joe Wurzelbacher is a good indication of what average Americans have to look forward to in a Barrack Obama administration (God forbid). Access will be based on positive contributions to the Obama persona and Hollywood status!

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S. Wills — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:48:28 -0000

Joe is opposed to social security. He said his parents are on social security and he lives with them. Will he be a loving son and support them and house them if they lose their social security? Just wondering.

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brantl — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:18:13 -0000

Factually, you're wrong. The bulk of small businesses make less that $250,000 dollars. This has previously been established, McCain doesn't even dispute this.

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Ron — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:17:54 -0000

I think McCain's problem is he views the Middle class different then most people do. Remember during the debate he joked saying Joe your rich and didnt even know it. Well at this point we were all under the impression that Joe would be making 250-280k just like he said. Well where I come from 250-280k per year is at least considered pretty damn wealthy if not rich.

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brantl — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:45:53 -0000

Can't read or think, Doug? That's too bad. Who typed this for you? Most of us, can. You're clueless, Doug. This chucklehead doesn't even have a plumber's license. He can't operate the business. And when McCain continues to lie about me, I'd laugh, too, rather than reach across the table and smack the lying little shit. Especially after this stuff has been disproved again and again and again. Have a nice day in that little fantasy world of yours, Doug.

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Candace Sacchetti — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:01:31 -0000

Anyone with real intelligence will know that John McCain is not good for this country. Mr. Obama has explained that a person will be taxed if they make over $250,000 and not on any earnings under that amount. Joe the plumber was a plant, which goes with the republican play book. It appears that the people with intelligence know that McCain will do nothing to help the middle class with jobs, homes, health care etc. Anyone voting for McCain has not paid attention to the destruction of the past eight years

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me — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:59:45 -0000

I guess this is the Hunt for Reds October.

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MrBurlesk — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:48:12 -0000

"Joe" the "plumber"....complete fraud; how colorful and distracting. We are going to need stuff like this to make fun of since there are so many days left before Election Day, and it will take a lot of humor to get us through the next few weeks. I can not believe that someone in the McCain campaign did not set up the interaction with Obama, particularly with the Robert Wurzelburger and Keating connection. On the other hand, this is America and Wurzelburger is entitled to join "patriot" wingnut political parties if he so chooses, and express his freedom of speech. But how ugly it is to see him abuse his rights and attempt some kind of "gotcha" on Obama -- something that boomeranged on McCain big time. I guess McCain and the Republican Party don't understand that when vetting someone you have to actually scratch beneath the surface. "Joe" and the political party he represents is finally being hoisted on its own petard. There certainly IS hope.

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Pelu Maad — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:12:00 -0000

Open heart surgery performed by someone who graduated 5 from the bottom of his class?...Good luck with that, dude....

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Ted — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:19:17 -0000

Dougie packed up his toys and ran home. Must be time for his evening Nicktoons.

Spongebob First

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lorisc — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:33:31 -0000

blmack,
You might be right. I have already voted and am about to go out to do some volunteer work for the campaign. It did suck up my afternoon.

Does anyone know if McCain is still paying bloggers or giving them freebies? Maybe Doug is trying to earn a free Palin t shirt.

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blmack — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:22:22 -0000

I think Doug's assignment is to keep people busy responding to his idiotic statements so they don't go out and vote.

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lorisc — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:20:14 -0000

Doug with your 30 jobs in 30 years you might just be the first one to find yourself in the unemployment line, and you can thank eight years of Bush and his policies. You haven't seen a viable argument because you aren't open to anythng that doesn't fall in line with your Rightwing mentality. Go back to Faux News, Rush, Drudge, and all of the rightwingnuts and you will hear exactly what you want to hear. You can once again fantasize that all is well with Bush and Cheney and all will continue to be well if only we stay the course with McCain and Palin. That's the world you belong in.

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Ron — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:16:13 -0000

Nayd,

Doug isn't too bad he is just sore because his guy is losing.

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LFC — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:14:11 -0000

I will toss this one out to Doug, though, simply because he obviously needs an example of how a thinking person decides on Obama. He brings up advisers and "vetting". OK, let's look at the people selected by each candidate. I'll choose economics as the topic since a) it's big right now and b) McCain admitted several times that he didn't know much about it (though he tried to take that back ... YouTube's a bitch, ain't it John.)

Obama has Austan Goolsbee (very bright and level-headed), Michael Froman (Citigroup exec ... a bank that didn't collapse), Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, and Paul Volcker (possibly the best Fed Reserve Chairman in the past 50 years ... certainly superior to "Easy Al" Greenspan).

McCain has Phil Gramm (the single most responsible person for the deregulation that allowed the current crisis to occur), Donald Luskin (dubbed the World's Stupidest Man for his long and late pronouncements of how strong the economy was), and Kevin Hasset (co-author of "Dow 36000" ... 'nuff said).

And if you want to see "experience", look at this list of advisers that McCain selected for foreign policy. The amount of "wrong" they represent is staggering.

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Ron — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:08:47 -0000

Well Doug it has been fun chatting with you, it is too bad you can not seem to keep it civil and stop with the insults. You claim you would like to see the company I work for, I work for a small business we have about 40 employees including a 9 man engineering dept. We design and make aerospace parts for the defense field. My boss, who is the owner is your basic "Joe the Plumber" he started this company 20 years ago with a pencil a slide rule and a thought.

He knows that Obama may cost a few more dollars in taxes for our business, but at the same point he has been supplying Health Care to all the employees and over the last 5 years it has doubled in cost and with McCain's plan it will only get worse. In the long run the overheads for insurance have far outweighed the taxes we have been paying, of course Florida and Palm Beach County taxes are a totally different story.

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LFC — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:05:51 -0000

Ugh! Doug just effectively said "I know you are, but what am I?" Better trolls, please.

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lorisc — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:00:55 -0000

Doug,
It's not a redirect. I like rational and logical thinking and you don't have any. You question Obama's experience but somehow think Palin is fine (VP to a 72 year old four time cancer survivor who is the oldest pres nominee ever). So, the experience of McCain's VP does matter. Doug were you impressed with Palin's ability to show the extent of her knowledge when interviewed by Gibson and Couric? If you were, you weren't paying attention. Much of the country and the world was just plain alarmed by her responses and lack of knowledge. In fact, it probably contributed to McCain's crash in the polls.

How is my information incorrect and your correct? Just wondering. It's not as if you back it up with anything but your own opinion. Like I said I don't find you to be all that logical or rational. Just someone with an opinion who thinks he's right.

Have you ever been to Obama's website? Maybe you could start there to find out exactly wehre he stands on the issues. Maybe then you'll be a little more comfortable with what he will do as president. Try educating yourself. I am so sick of the line that we just don't know what Obama is about. If you don't know you haven't been listening. But, it's looking highly probably that we will be finding out soon. President Obama is looking pretty likely.

BTW, the link to your Yahoo article has expired. So, it wasn't possible to read it. Perhaps you'd like to find another article from another respected news source (no Fox News please). Did you read the article I sent you? Probably not. You never did answer me about whether you think the war started in 2007 or 2003. You are all about the surge but not about the bad judgment and lies that got us in the war to begin with. A war McCain couldn't wait to fight. Surge. Surge. Surge. It's the GOP mantra along with Drill Baby Drill.

Well, it's time to go. I want to make a donation before I go to a Get Out the Vote meeting.

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LFC — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:00:23 -0000

So again, I am saying that you are implying that you have complete trust in Obama’s cabinet, by the example you’ve just outlined. Do you know who they are, and have you vetted them out?

What kind of engineer are you, Doug? Because judging from your "logic skills", it certainly isn't software.

I'm picking the guy who can pick the best team, listen to their points of view based upon years of expertise that is orders of magnitude beyond the lifespan of any single individual, and can make good decisions.

But if you'd like to talk about advisers, let's review an example. I'll pick economics. It's particularly important since John McCain admitted multiple times that he didn't understand much about the economy ... before he denied ever saying that. (YouTube's a bitch, ain't it John?)

Obama's economic advisers include Austan Goolsbee and Warren Buffet. Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, and Paul Volcker. Not a bad cast of characters.

McCain's economic advisers include Phil Gramm (the single most responsible person for the wholesale deregulation that allowed the current crisis), Donald Luskin (dubbed as the World's Stupidest Man for his long and late denials that the economy had any problems), and Kevin Hassett (co-author of Dow 36000 ... 'nuff said). These are the guys who are supposed to bring us change and smart regulation.

So when it comes to a CEO who can pick economic advisers, I'll go with Obama.

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Doug — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:57:24 -0000

Oh well, doesn't look like anyone here has any clue of what is really happening. I thought I might actually see why some of you are voting for Obama, but I haven’t been able to see a single viable argument. Enough of my time wasted.

Good luck if he get’s elected, a lot of you are going to end up in the unemployment line!

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cheeriogirl — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:53:14 -0000

I am from Ohio and yes Joe would be disqualified under the latest ruling of our courts due to the Republican lawsuit. I think it is disgusting to invalidate a voter's right in this way. If the ruling stands, I wonder if Joe will still be so enamored of his party?

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nayd — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:50:53 -0000

This Doug guy is really stupid - why are you engaging with him? It is cruel.

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cheeriogirl — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:48:10 -0000

I need to rant.

This is for you Doug,

I want a president who is intelligent, sane, and a man of good character. I want someone who listens well, to not just the words spoken, but the ideas behind those words. Someone who can think clearly in both a conversation, and a crisis. I want someone who can keep their "cool" in negotiations with others in the US Government, as well as those in foreign governments.

These character traits are all based upon mutual respect of others, and are learned as part of your upbringing. These qualities have nothing to do with job experience.

Last night during the debate, I saw an angry, reactive, aggressive presidential candidate. Senator McCain did not listen, continually interupted, repeatedly lied about his Obama, and seemed to particularly enjoy talking down to his peer.

He also made faces throughout the debate, rollled his eyes, and huffed and puffed throughout some of Senator Obama's answers. This type of behaviour reminded me of my teens when visibly annoyed, and was in no way presidential.

You can and apparently will continue to argue for McCain's 26 years of experience. You see that as a plus, I see this as a huge negative, as he has been a member of the Washington establishment, that he apparently despises, for over 2 decades. Yet he tells us that change will be coming to Washington, once he is elected.

I ask you Doug, WHY HASN'T he changed Washington before now?

He has been there 26 years and it has taken him this long to realize that there are problems?

Do you have any evidence of any bills he has authored in the last year or two that he is working on currently? Or are we supposed to wait until we elect him to see if he has any actual workable ideas that his fellow congressmen and women will support?

I simply see no evidence Doug. Senator McCain did not even vote AT ALL between April and the vote on the bailout.

And when was it that he came to the realization that Washington is run by the good old boys, greed and lobbyists?

He wants me to believe that he will get the fat cats out of Washington, when his campaign is overrun with them. Does Rick Davis mean anything to you? He was still taking money from FM til last month! And McCain says he didn't know this, yet he kept him in his campaign. So much for his transparency argument.

And now his transition team is to be headed up by one of the largest lobbyists in Washington; a lobbyist who worked for Saddam Hussein! What rich hypocrisy here. He incites fear in his voters with trumped up stories of Ayres. Yet he has a man who lobbied FOR Saddam Hussein IN THE WHITE HOUSE! In OUR white house.!

Then at last night's debate, McCain says Ayres is a washed up old terrorist whom he is no longer worried about. This AFTER we have heard nothing but AYRES nonstop for the last couple of weeks.

Why would he fraudulently stir up fear and rage amongst our people? In a word, manipulation. Because this man will stop at nothing to get what he feels he is entitled to, the POTUS. To hell with our citizens who are truly terrified because of his constant talk of someone who he now says is " a washed up terrorist". I am sure that offers them great comfort. You see Doug, it is all about him. "We the people" are simply pawns for him to use. Lieing, cheating, character asassination, are not a problem for McCain if that gets him one step closer to his goal. Talk about "blind ambition".

There is your experience argument Doug, in a nutshell. McCain does not want to serve the citizens of the United States. His experience is all wrapped around learning to use the money hungry, power hungry lobbyists. Working together will line the fat cat's pockets and enable John McCain to reach his goal.

Pretty mavericky, huh?

This is not a man who I respect at all.

We have all been given a clear choice in this election.

My choice is for Barack Obama.

I certainly saw no evidence of McCain's leadership skills during the financial crisis. His behavior then was repugnant, as he was in no way acting on behalf of the best interests of our nation with his embarrassing antics. I was particularly NOT impressed with the way he "reached across the aisle", with such disastrous results. And the man who hates "pork" and is never going to sign a bill with pork in it, signed his name to the buyout, with nary a complaint.

I am still waiting to hear him shout the names, as he has said he would, but that would mean he would have to start with himself!

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Sean D. Francis — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:43:44 -0000

1. No, his taxes won't go up. How many times does this have to hammered out. If you make less that $250,000 you get a tax cut. A business would have to have a NET PROFIT of $250,001 before its tax rate would go from 36% to 39%. That is a 3% increase on every dollar over 250,000. Now if the business creates 1 new job, it gets a $3,000 tax break. Any business making a net profit of 250k would be doing awesome.

2. This guy was already decided... this guy is a part of 'The New Fear of Socialism' crowd that fails to see that Republicans do more to push government into our lives than Democratic leaders.

3. Oh please *rolls eyes*